Brake change question

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My father and I just changed the brakes (on all wheels) on my 323i and after taking it for a drive afterwards, I noticed that the pedal is much SOFTER than it was before. I have to press a helluva harder and the pedal has to travel much further than it used to. The brakes don't feel as strong as before. Is this normal?? I don't think so. Also, my dad says that it might not be gripping as hard now because we added some brake grease, could this be true. Do I have to drive a little?

Any thoughts/comments/experiences would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
 

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You might have used some grease around the pad where it wears on the pad holder/piston. That might have gotten on the discs/rotors. It does take a while for the pads to seat, but until then you normally get some squealing or whistling. The new pads are perfectly smooth, the old discs/rotors are not, the new pad need to "seat." That could mean less braking at first, perhaps, but not by much.

As far as having to push much further now, that has me puzzled. Some systems, when you push the piston back in to fit the new pads in, will actuall expell brake fluid out of the resevoir in the engine compartment. I've never had this happen and my dad is always surprised that I can change my own brakes without have to top off the resevoir afterwards. You might just want to check your DOT fluid, make sure it's not low...i'm not sure if this would lead to having to push the pedal down further than usual.

I have notice that the first couple times after changing the brakes, the pedal goes almost all the ways down to the floor as the system redistributes the DOT fluid and calibrates itself for the thickness of the new pads. But this only happens like the first and second time your step on the pedal after changing the pads.

I'm stumped. I would check the DOT and keep an eye on it as you drive the first 100 miles. If the pedal still has to be pressed really far, something is wrong. You should not have to bleed the brakes after changing pads or discs. Bleeding brakes is only something you do every 3 years or so, just to keep the fluid fresh.
 
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what kind of brakes did you use if you used after market pads you get what you pay for trust me i have done hundreds of brake jobs on these cars and if you dont use bmw stuff the pedal wont feel like it should or stop like it i have replaced 4 wheel brakes days after a after market job to get the feel back it doesent just go great it also stops great
 
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Thanks for the help guys. Wow, talk about knowing your sh*t. HornyHornet and aNoodle: you guys were right on the mark. Apparently, while my dad had one of the brake "houses" open, I pressed on the brake pedal and we're guessing some air got into the lines. Anyway, we bled them this morning, topped off my brake fluid (it was a little low) and now she stops just fine. Pedal feel has returned to normal.

Thanks again.

Oh BTW, geneo: I got the Bosch "OEM" pads. At least that what the guy at AutoZone said where the OEMs?
 
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Wallie05 said:
Oh BTW, geneo: I got the Bosch "OEM" pads. At least that what the guy at AutoZone said where the OEMs?
Hehe, over the years I have discovered that whatever brand the counter guy has in stock, it just by "coincidence" happens to be OEM. [rolleyes]
 


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