It is time that I chimed in on the "Who is Larry" debacle (AKA BMW employee)

Car_54 · Apr 1, 2004

It is time that I chimed in on the "Who is Larry" debacle (AKA BMW employee)

How can Larry post a complaint about a whining noise July 2003
The link is here http://www.bmwboard.com/forum/showthread.php?t=243

For a car he did not take delivery on until October 2003
The link is here:http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51054

Pay close attention to the car model and year, location and the signature. The text's are as follows:

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07-25-2003, 02:32 AM Post #1
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Walnut Creek CA
Posts: 4
What I Drive: 2003 325xi sedan auto
Quote:
Originally Posted by rlarryjohnson

This a new car. About 7000 miles I notice a whinning/howling noise at various speed, ie., 45-50; 60-65 etc. while trying to maintain a constant speed. Go away with more acceleration.
Dealer has worked on the car 3 times: Insulated the center bearing, Installed a factory part called a vibration absorper, and yesterday replaced the transfer case which had burnt fluid and metal in the fluid.
The noise is still there. The dealer, (Concord BMW) has asked me to bring the car back in on 7/30/03 for further analysis. The dealer is being very sympathetic and proactive. NO COMPLAINTS here.
Does anyone out there have any thoughts???
The car really runs very well, if you can stand the annoying whine which tends to grate on the nerves.

Thanks
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Larry
Coldstart Behavior on '04 325XI - Experts Please Help!

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01-24-2004, 11:02 AM
lsedels
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Westchester Co., NY

Hi,
I am one of those lucky people who had a problem GM transmission in my brand new '04 325XI delivered on October of '03 The tranny has just been replaced, and I am trying to determine if the problem has been corrected (many who have had their trannys replaced are still experiencing the problem!). The problem was only upon a coldstart and was very subtle (in my case) to begin with. It relates to the clutch assembly whereby the pressures were lost overnight and had a problem building up again until the engine warms up. So ... I'd like to ask the group the following:
After leaving a car overnight in colder weather, what behavior is considered normal when shifting an automatic into "D" for the first time? The car is idling high, of course. RPMs are about 800-1000, but there is very very little forward motion. Should I expect SOME forward motion without having to depress the accelerator (to the point where I have to apply the brakes)? What would you expect the "normal" behavior to be when depressing the accelerator to the point where it gives me 1500-2000 rpms? How fast should the car accelerate to, and how long should it take to get there? This morning, I depressed the accelerator a couple of times a fair ways down and saw a jump in the rpms each time with not much response on the part of the car. Then, I depressed the accelerator again ... this time to about 2500 rpms and got about 20 mph max out of the car.
I never really had the car not respond at all once shifted into "D" as some others have (even with the "old" tranny). My symptoms were much more subtle ... it just seemed as though the car labored when intially accelerating and didn't "catch" very easily.
I drove an '03 330i as a loaner and it just didn't seem to behave the same way.
Can someone help me determine whether I still have the problem or not?

Thanks for your help.
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Larry

Here is a bonus "Larry" blunder. He now is offering another potential reason for the defect. This time it is the torque converter. So to recap we went from a differential, to a software to a clucth patch to a transmission replacement now to a torque converter.
The link is here:http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51054
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lsedels
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Westchester Co., NY Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 279
Mein auto:'04 325XI Steel Blue/Sand

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobs_Red_Bimmer
Hi Larry,

I would ask you how things turned out but all the people over at BMW Board tell me you are like Vatkens. AKA BMW employee.

You certainly are free to believe what you wish .

I have asked the dealer to test drive it again. But by the time this happens, the weather may be too warm. Dealer says that tranny is fine ... and that this behavior is caused by the torque converter.
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Larry

PONDEROUS MAN ! ! ! [wave]

Section_8 · Apr 1, 2004

I dunno, but you have alot of interest in Larry... What's your buddy Toby think about it?

I'm pretty sure theres more than 1 Larry that owns that same model car. What is your 'evidence' that these 2 people are 1 in the same??

And so what? Who says he has to be a 'BMW employee' to mindlessly (or mindfully, your choice) defend his thoughts on 'any' forum?

I guess I'm lost on exactly 'what' you're calling him out on??

LarryE · Apr 1, 2004

Man ... What an Imagination!

Car_54. I purchased my '04 325XI in October of 2003 and I live in New York. Would you like me to post the bill of sale next? Ask the moderators to check when I joined bmwforum.com. Go ahead. You'll find out that it was after my purchase. But you won't. Why do you and all your "buddys" continue to personalize this (and thereby avoiding the real points about the steptronic)? Is it finally getting to the point where you realize that you are wrong and just can't come right out and admit it?

Why must you continue to make this a place where you and your "compatriots" clutter up this board with useless chatter, personal attacks, and inaccuracies? There are people who come here looking for help, only to find you taking up space by making accusations about when people joined what boards and what kind of posts they make.

Talk about ponderous?

I'm calling you out Car_54. Where is your proof or even basis for suspicion that these two "users" are one and the same person. One is from CA, one is from NY. They post about two unrelated problems on two different cars. Is it not possible that there are actually two people named Larry who own BMWs? And what proof do you have that I work for BMW? What would even cause you to think that? You're beginning to get scurrilous enough here to generate a lawsuit. You'd better be sure that the claims you are making are true. The only thing that this shows me is that you are being your typical self. As soon as you can't support your claims about the tranny problem, or you are proven wrong, you avoid the issue and resort to name calling and personal accusations.

I don't even want to think that I am conceding to your bullcrap, but if anyone can suggest a way that I could prove that I don't work for BMW, without revealing my personal information, I'd consider it.

And incidentally, why do you hide behind the name "Car_54"? If you are so on the level, why don't you use your actual name? Don't know why I even ask. You will not answer. You avoid any and all questions.

epj3 · Apr 1, 2004

Larry, I think someone has a crush on you [:I]

LarryE · Apr 1, 2004

epj3 said:

Do you think that maybe Car_54 is some hot babe? Hmmm. That might change my opinion! [burnout]

epj3 · Apr 1, 2004

LarryE said:

If Car_54 is a hot babe who has a crush on people she thinks is employed by BMW... then I'm employed by bmw!!!

LarryE · Apr 1, 2004

epj3 said:

But the paranoia would do me in! Could you imagine dating a woman who never admits she's wrong (maybe), attacks and accuses other people, slanders other people, and avoids issues/questions? Talk about high-maintenance!

Then again ... if she's blonde, blue-eyed, 5' 4", with curves ... well ...

Kirby · Apr 1, 2004

I can see two reasonable, rational explanations to the "multiple Larry" conundrum:

1. There certainly can be two Larrys that own BMWs. Jeez, they sell like 30,000 a month!

2. Even if it WAS the same person, it's entirely feasible that Larry lived in California and his employer leases him a company car. He gets transferred to New York in September, and his company leases him another new car, his old car goes to someone else who works in the California office. This happens ALL the time. Or he owns his car, and just sells his 2003 because he doesn't want to move it across the country.

And how does ANY of this prove that he's a BMW employee???

Bmw 325i 7803 · Apr 1, 2004

I love high maintenance... [hihi]

jarelj · Apr 2, 2004

Adios

Ok, I'm done. If the moderators of this board don't care about/ don't pay attention to trolls undermining the integrity of the information on the board, then it doesn't deserve my patronage. They're now starting to pop up on other BMW boards even, and it's clearly the same people. For God's sake, at least check the IP addresses for the cast of characters masquerading as the "recall" group and see if any of them are the same! And chime in on what's happening here to get things on track! This place has become a complete laughing stock over the past month!

Here's the list I compiled of users supporting the "Car_54" position, with the date they joined the board:

TIXXDriver - 2/16/04
Car_54 - 2/18/04
IMPORTERofRECORD - 2/23/04
LipSmacknGOOd - 3/4/04
BMW_Driver22 - 3/4/04
Trading_up_2_330ci - 3/10/04
Steptronic_Woes - 3/22/04
Toby_72 - 3/30/04

If the situation here ever changes, and it becomes a valuable resource again, someone please PM me and I'll come check things out. Until then, I thank those who helped me get my replacement tranny so I can enjoy my new car. You DID provide me a great service by letting me know that I didn't have to wait for a recall to get my car fixed!

Kirby · Apr 2, 2004

Those are the screen names that I've considered for a while to be questionable identities as well, starting when LipSmacknGOOd signed on. It's highly likely not eight individual people, might be one person under all eight names. At any rate, nobody here takes he/she/it/them seriously at this point.

I repond to "them" so that new members here don't take their posts seriously, and many times it's entertaining to engage "them" and expose "their" lies!

Xyrium · Apr 2, 2004

jarelj said:

jarelj, I don't think someone else's argument is a substantial reason to leave. Who cares if they perpetuate a thread so long that it causes them all to drive their Hyundais into a wall. Let 'em go, their just kids for chrissake! [rolleyes]

I empathize withyou, but don't let it drive you mad. Rock on BMWboard![headbang] vbmenu_register("postmenu_74664", true);

Tom · Apr 2, 2004

jarelj, normally we keep our actions low key, however if it will help clear up any misconception about our forum...the majority of those names you mentioned have been quietly removed a while ago. They use a dynamic IP which is impossible to block unless we block off an entire group of IP's. The best we can do is remove their usernames and prevent them from posting.

Like any forum, there will continuously be members that troll the board. My advice is to just disregard these people and they will go away. You can also report any post to us and we'll be more than happy to review it. There is also an option in your User CP that ignores any member you wish. That being said, we can't just ban members at the drop of a dime otherwise there would be no point of having this discussion forum, but we do try our best to weed out members that deliberately come here just to be disruptive.

Additionally, I'm looking very closely at a few other members "including the author of this thread" as well.

Tom

dpnguyen · Apr 2, 2004

the drama....Administrator, I appreciate your approach on this matter. As members, we also need to be smart enough to mentally 'filter' such postings. [nutkick]

SFCA-325i · Apr 2, 2004

dpnguyen said:

I agree. It does, at times, get tiring though.

Car_54 · Apr 2, 2004

We owe it to fellow BMW owners

Tom said:

Thank you Tom. I applaud your willingness to promote a forum where the truth can be shared. I was asked to remain "civil" and have done so. The subject of this post was chosen when I saw the obvious. Your comments regarding my observation are welcomed.

More importantly:
I call on BMW to notify all owners with the known steptronic safety defect immediately. Secondly, I want BMW to confirm the steptronic safety defect has been corrected. This must come from BMW to be deemed credible.

I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would argue differently.

Civily,
Car_54 [wave]

Tom · Apr 2, 2004

Car_54 said:

I trust that you will honor this comment by not creating any additional aliases in order to get your point across.

I'm going to lock this topic now since it really serves no purpose on the forum.

It is time that I chimed in on the "Who is Larry" debacle (AKA BMW employee)

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