My 330i ZHP got hit !

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Long time guys.

Unfortunately under bad circumstances. I was the 2nd car at a light waiting at the red light to make a left turn. When the light turn green the 1st car proceeded to make the left turn. As i entered the intersection, I looked to the left to see a car approach me rapidly. Looks like it wasn't going to stop so i mashed the pedal. hoping to clear the path, unfortunately not fast enough. The rogue car hit me in the rear driver / rear wheel area. My car spun 90 degree leaving an arc skid mark on the pavement. The rear door, lower frame, wheel and suspension were damaged. The suspension arm was broken clean. We got ambulenced and checked out at the hospital just in case. There were 4 people in my car, wife, mom, dad. We are ok with muscle stiffness and some bruises. Luckily i saw him coming, if I didn't react, it would have hit the car at the rear driver side door, even worst broad side ( don't want to think about it ). It was a young teen about 18 years old. He claim that someone was tailgating him and he was concentrating on his rear view mirror. I believe him because he obliviously did see the first car go by, the red light or my car. I am glad there was no serious injures. But I am LIVID and hurt ! The car was a 2004 330i ZHP, mint with 40 miles short of 10,000. I need some advise on what to do on the insurance claim or what to expect. I feel that this car will never be the same after the fix and junk for resale, and get shafted. You guys knew how passionate you car enthusiast are. Help !
 

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I'd suggest you get it fixed at a BMW certified shop with a frame machine. What kind of car was it that hit you? Any pictures? If they can replace the rear door, the panel, drivetrain parts affected, the wheel, tire, rim, suspension parts, etc.. Chances are the car will be just fine, with the exception of the cars resale value. This is due largely to the widespread feeling you mentioned about "the car never being the same again", it's purely psychological. In the future I'd look to be sure that all the cars are stopped before entering the intersection. Even if you have the green light, in NY you never really know. I had something similar almost happen on a left turn, only I saw the guy accelerating out of the corner parking spot and punched it in time for him to miss my right rear side by a fraction of a second. In the end be glad everyone in your car was ok, that's all that really matters anyway. You did a good job in avoiding the T-bone with a full car.
 

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Wow sorry to hear, but the bottom line is that everyone is ok. Seems like you did the right thing by trying to beat him accross the intersection.

Since the other guy is at fault, I would just let the insurance handle everything for you. All you need to do is to find a good reputable bodyshop in your area that will fix her correctly.

I believe the standard procedure is that your insurance company will send out an appraiser to inspect your car. He will determine if the car is repairable or deemed salvaged. At the same time he may also give you a list of recommended shops that you can take it to. However you can take it to any shop of your choosing.

When they do repair your car, make sure they allow you to inspect the car after every process. IE after body work etc.

Good luck with the process.
 

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See if you can get it recorded as a "TOTAL" so you get a new car.

A repaired car with significant damage will never drive the same.

I had a car with massive damage, a borderline "total" case, and I
told them to fix the car. Emotions got in the way, I wanted my baby
fixed. Mistake.

Just get a new car, if you can. Stress that the frame is bent to anyone
who gives you a hassle, and see if you can push it through.

Glad no one was injured, and good luck.
 

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William330 said:
See if you can get it recorded as a "TOTAL" so you get a new car.

A repaired car with significant damage will never drive the same.

I had a car with massive damage, a borderline "total" case, and I
told them to fix the car. Emotions got in the way, I wanted my baby
fixed. Mistake.

Just get a new car, if you can. Stress that the frame is bent to anyone
who gives you a hassle, and see if you can push it through.

Glad no one was injured, and good luck.
WRONG, the car is not significantly damaged, and the E46 BMW has 3 separate portions of its frame. The frame piece can be either replaced or repaired by a frame machine from BMW.

It's people with this "waaaaaaaaaaaaah [B)] my cars been fixed its broke for good now" attitude that explains why even if BMW themselves rebuilt the car, it would still be no good. If the car is fixed right, it will drive exactly the same as before. Besides the car spun, it didn't stand there and absorb the full impact. Do you really wish to total a new car with 10,000 miles because it needs a new door, bumper, side panel, suspension and wheel parts? [confused]

If someone broadsided your car and there was a deep scrape from the rear panel to the front wheel well, would you push to have it totaled because the sheet metal had to be replaced? What if the car was scratched by some keys? Is that a total loss as well?
 
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I'm pretty sure that that the car will not be deemed a "total" by the insurance. They already had the appraiser check the car out. They are rushing to close the "collision" part of the case and estimated the repair for $5100. Yeah, right the rear wheel / tire on the car to replace is already close to $1000. $5100 will barely cover the parts. I called my BMW dealer to ask who they partner up with for repairs. Going to get an estimate from them. I'll post a pic soon. See what you guys estimate the repair. Thanks for all your input.
 
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Here's a pic. it looks deceiving. It looks like the main impact was at the door. But, it was really at the end of the rear door and the rear wheel. It doesn't show the rear wheel at a 15 degree angle and busted suspension.
 

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Any airbags go off? $5100 seems pretty low.

I'd take it to a BMW certified repair shop (with that frame machine). Doing a quicky search, here is a list of certified ones I found:

JMK AUTOBODY-SPRINGFIELD NJ (1ST ONE APPROVED)
CHAPMAN BMW-SCOTTSDALE AZ
CHRIS BMW-DECATUR GA
PATRICK BMW-CHICAGO IL
KARL KNAUZ MOTORS-LAKE BLUFF IL
FOREIGN MOTORS WEST-NATIC MA
MOMENTUM BMW-HOUSTON TX
SPECTRUM COLISION-IRVINE CA
 
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i would've had the car taken to a bmw dealership with a body shop and got the estimate from them,only reason is because the dealer wont usually cut corners when doing repairs they try and replace everythng possible since their getting paid for it.
 
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The side curtain didn't deploy.

I called the Westchester BMW they referred me to a local shop and I commited. I wish I know about the JMK place sooner. The car is build solid. The window still rolls down.
 

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Bmw 325i 7803 said:
WRONG, the car is not significantly damaged
What are you a psychic? Apparently not a good one, judging by the
photo posted by the car's owner.

Ease up on the "WRONG" nonsense, we're all sharing our opinion
here, and obviously are not appraisers looking at the damaged
vehicle in person.

Anyway, looking at the photo, if you do repair the car, consider
if it makes sense to trade it in now while the repairs/paint is still
fresh.

It's a good bet the repaired rear end may never track straight, as
a bent unibody is a disaster.

Good luck.
 

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I'd have gone with JMK in springfield, NJ I've heard good things about them. At least try and make sure the one from Westchester has a frame machine from BMW, otherwise you can always try and back out.

The damage doesn't look bad, it's mostly sheet metal on the rear corner above the wheel. The door can be replaced completely as well as the wheel and suspension parts.

William, I doubt he tracks that car, and if he does they can fix that without a problem. I've seen much worse. As for the sharing of ideas, in this case my "opinion" is probably closer to fact than anyone elses thus far. The only exception would be the BMW certified body shop estimaters. Judging by your "bent unibody being a disaster" comment it seems like you're playing psychic too and in a rather discouraging manner. Theres no need to be a car snob, it's just a bunch of pieces of metal, plastic and glass. The window is not even shattered, how badly damaged can the frame be?

In all honesty that car can be repaired 100% by a certified shop like JMK, no need to cause unneeded worry. I'm sure you won't be buying his car or any other car thats ever been bumped into before. The E46 is a very strong, solid built car.
 
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In the grand scheme, that really isn't too bad. The fact that the rear suspension is at a 15 degree angle and busted up is a GOOD thing. That means it took the brunt of the force and actually ABSORBED most of the impact energy. From the picture and your description of the suspension damage, as well as spinning you 'round, my guess is the unibody did not bend.

I've totally removed/rebuilt an E36 rear suspension, and the E46 is basically the same. There is ALOT of steel and box type reinforcement that creates the "tunnel" that the wheels and rear end sit in. That area is probably the strongest part of the car.

To illustrate the extreme opposite, if that were a new 5 series and the front was hit exactly like that, it would probably be totaled.
 

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Bmw 325i 7803 said:
my "opinion" is probably closer to fact than anyone elses thus far.
LOL, too funny. So your opinion (which you've put in quotes) is
now apparently instant fact. Classic. Divorced much?

To the original poster, good luck with the repairs, and if the car doesn't
track (not as in race track for the "experts" out there) straight after
repairs, it's probably best to unload the car sooner rather than later.

Good luck.
 
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I was planning on keeping the car a long while. I like to get my money's worth on the car. It took a long while to get at bat to make this purchase. from reading through your posts, i'm pretty confident that in good hands the car can be repaired, perhaps not 100% ( just as long at i can reach 155 mph and have the car run straight, just kidding ) . From the initial estimate the insurance company will work with the body shop to get a better evaluation of the damage. just glad it wasn't the front and engine, then i would be really miserable.
 
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Got car back this weekend. They did a great job appearence wise. Couldn't tell it was hit. They were recommended by BMW Westchester and completed the job in 3 1/2 weeks. The total cost came out to $10,800 and the Insurance determine that the other party was at 100% fault. So no money out of my pocket.

Here are some pics. Can you see the demage ? Can you see my mod too
 

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