those ugly stickers on the visors

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I havent tried it but I have thought about it, havent got the balls to risk ruining my visors.

My X5 has cloth visors, I am going to go try the pick method right now.... Thanks vlad.

I think the pick method might be worth a try first on the E46.

Then if that fails, try the goof off?
 

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OK, I just removed the stickers on the X5 like so:

I used the spray type GOOF OFF which is water based. I sprayed a cotton wipe (my wife had these) until it was very wet with the stuff. I then rubbed it all over the sticker a quite a few times being careful not to stay within the boundaries of the sticker but also covering the whole thing. I waited about 1 minute then started picking and peeling at a corner with my fingernail. Soon the thing started to peel off and I slowly and carefully peeled it off in one piece.

The sticker is kinda rubbery so be careful not to rip it, although I did and reacquiring the peel was no problem.

After it was off I cleaned the area again with a clean swab and more goof off because there was still some glue left behind.

The E46 is next.......but I may mask it off.......maybe not......
 
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Interesting....I don't even have them on my car. I did have an easily removed sticker on the dash, but nothing on the visors.

Hey Big Daddy, do you think there is any potential liability for removing them? I took them off my truck but saved them so I could put them on if I decided to do a private party sale. I also saved the warning that was hanging from the radio knob for the air bags to be sure that if I sold the truck to someone, and they were in an accident, that I could not be named in any way for contributory effects.
 
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Push, the Dinan sticker is no longer on my roadster, I now have my Dinan badge instead.

Bryan330i, I do not think there is any liability issues with the private party removal of the warning labels. Thus far private party sales have been relatively free from issues related to product liability. The best defense from such issues of course would be to leave the stickers in place, or in replacing them before selling the car (like you propose). When I sell a car I have the purchaser sign a “Bill of Sale” that has all the legal junk outlined, like: there is no warranty expressed or implied, I make no representation as to the use, condition or function of the car, and always mention that I assume no liability for the automobile, its use, condition, functionality or misuse. It is also a good idea to always have the owner’s manual with the car when you sell it, because it can then be assumed that the new owner had the opportunity to read it. Remember however that nothing is 100% and anyone can file a suit against anyone for anything
 

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I took off the stickers today, there is still a little residue from the adhesive, I will try to remove with the non-water based goof off when I get some.

I think you guys are splitting hairs on the liability issue. When I sell my car I sign the title over to the new owner. That's it. No fine print, no sticker check, no bill of sale with any legal junk. Once we both sign the title, the vehicle is no longer my responsibility in any way. The wheels could fall off as he drives it away and it wouldn't matter one bit to me. Maybe FL is different than where you live. Haven't you guys ever sold a car titled to you?
 
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BMWROCKS, I was just curious if a duty to warn could be impaired by removal of the warning labels. No big deal, I was just curious. I was just thinking after reading the posts that what if an accident were to occur and the vehicle owner brought a case against a manufacturer based upon negligence and/or duty to warn of potential hazard. And given that the labels were removed by the previous owner, what could be done that may enjoin the previous owner in the liability.

Not that big of a deal or concern, I was just curious what an attorney thought just as a matter of conversation.

Thanks for the response Big Daddy.
 

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BMWROCKS, we were not making a big deal of it, nor are we splitting hairs, just having a discussion. "Once we both sign the title, the vehicle is no longer my responsibility in any way." That maybe for the most part but there are always exceptions. In a case where a safety modification has been made, like replacing the airbag steering wheel with a non-airbag wheel, and failing to tell the new owner who gets injured in a collision. I could see a potential case being made here, or in the least a suit filed that cost the seller to defend. Just a thought, but always protect ones self as much as possible.

And too in some cases a titling state will hold you responsible until you have reported the sale to the state. I know that many west coast states have a form that the seller tears off the title and mails to the state informing them of the sale.

Sorry did not mean to blab so much, just some thoughts.
 

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I don't think those stickers are "not to be removed under penalty of law" type stickers. If they were, it would have to say so on them by law. Maybe the same DAs that prosecute mattress dealers removing their labels also go after sticker removing car owners.

No flame intended.

Use this analogy......If I raise my truck suspension three feet higher than stock, then sell the truck and the new owner rolls it over because he doesn't know how to handle the high suspension, am I resposible for his injuries and damages because I didn't place rollover warning stickers? I don't think so.
 

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PuShAkOv said:
"penalty of law" thing only applies to sellers. So you can remove it safely since you are a consumer.... unless you will become a seller one day [fake].
I think it only applies to original seller. Because if as a mattress consumer I remove the tag, then sell the mattress in a garage sale, I don't have to reattach the tag.

Then again how does the next buyer know if I have or haven't restuffed the thing with arsenic soaked rags if we don't sign a legal disclosure? [joke].

Just like how does the buyer of my BMW know if I have disabled the airbags or not? Or the danger of improper use of the airbag system? I think car manufacturers should have stickers all over the car. Like stating the dangers of driving at top speed. Or making a 90 degree turn at 80. The list could go on ad nauseum. Is BMW responsible if you wreck the car and die driving at 130 MPH just because the car can do that speed? Point is it's not my problem.[?|] [hatchet]
 


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