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...cover 1991 3 Series? One covers 84-90 and the other covers 92-98. Most of the info in the 84-90 manual covers my 91 cabrio but it is disconcerting to think I might not have certain info because the manual doesn't cover my year vehicle.

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Not only does it miss the '91 cabrio but also the '92 which is still an E30, the E36 is a sedan in '92. Also missing is the 318i with the 1.8L 16v engine. The Haynes excludes the same years/models. My guess is that BMW wanted too much money for details and the rights to use the info on those years/models that made it not worthwhile to purchase. Write to Haynes or Bentley it would be interesting to know for sure. I say this because look at the price of the E36 manual. The price is more than double the E30 ($90-$100). In 1985 I paid $50 for a factory 318i manual and it included only that model. The factory no longer provides these manuals as we all know so BMW found another way to make money, sell the rights to their old info to people like Bentley etc. so they can sell it to us.
 
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Not only does it miss the '91 cabrio but also the '92 which is still an E30, the E36 is a sedan in '92.
The 1993 cabrio is also an E30. The 1992 325is coupe is also E36, but I am sure you didn't mean to say otherwise.
 

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Yes I agree brahtw8, I didn't remember if the '93 cabrio was still an E30. BMW with its terminology still calls the 325is for '92 a sedan although a 2 dr sedan. They chose the E46 to call a coupe in its 2dr form. They made a point to say the E46 is the first coupe since the 6 & 8 series. The rest of us call the 325is etc a coupe. Have you any other clues to why these models are omitted?
 
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Yes I agree brahtw8, I didn't remember if the '93 cabrio was still an E30. BMW with its terminology still calls the 325is for '92 a sedan although a 2 dr sedan. They chose the E46 to call a coupe in its 2dr form. They made a point to say the E46 is the first coupe since the 6 & 8 series. The rest of us call the 325is etc a coupe. Have you any other clues to why these models are omitted?
I can only speculate that the differences between a 1991 E30 and 1993 E30 are so minimal that Bentley didn't bother. The manual may have been put together shortly after the 1991 model year and they didn't bother to update it. BMW may have wanted too much money for the specs, etc. I think there were only a few thousand 1993s, and not many more 1992s.

I can check the 3-series enthusiast's companion for any changes between the 1991-1993 convertibles. I suspect its very minimal.
 

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I tend to agree. I think the money BMW may have wanted for an update for so few vehicles may have precluded their inclusion in order to keep the price of the manual down. That way they hope to sell more manuals. If they really wanted to they could put together a supplement for those vehicles. The manuals would be cheaper than buying the E30 and E36 manuals. With the cabrio I believe the major difference is the optional power top that came in '91 and the European bumpers in '92. It would have been nice to have included the 318i 16v 4 cyl in the manual though. Even though I do not have one, the people who do have to get 2 manuals at substantial expense. They need the E30 for the body and running gear and an E36 for the M40/42 engine. Brahtw8, how do you like the Yoko AVS ES100s? I'm sort of trying to decide between them and the new Bridgestone Potenza RE 750s for my next set.
 
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I really have not thought about it. I guess I should start. I've been planning & setting up a vacation cruise, getting airline reservations to send my wife to visit her mom for her birthday and getting ready for my son's wedding on the Sep 12th. He and his "to be" are also club members. His 330ci is back in Desert to have his sunroof shade fixed again.
 

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Part of the reason for the 91 318 is that BMW used the new M42 motor. So the 318 hard tops were the last year of the E30's for hardtops and the first year with the M42. Kinda makes them step-children. I have a BMW tech's manual for the 91 E30's if someone needs so information.
 
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Brahtw8, how do you like the Yoko AVS ES100s? I'm sort of trying to decide between them and the new Bridgestone Potenza RE 750s for my next set.
I think they are a great value for the money. They don't grip as well in the dry as my old Dunlop D40 M2s, but have decent grip in the dry and wet. I did Octoberfast in them at Road America last year, and have about 25k on them since. They still have a lot of tread.

I don't have any experience with or knowledge of the Potenzas, so I can't really say which is better. I suppose I could research it for 5 minutes and come up with an answer, but so can you. [thumb]
 

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Thanks brahtw8, I'm just trying to get some real world evaluation on them. I've heard good reports on them with the exception that they do not give good tread mileage. However, that varies so much with the type/style of driving that is done. My concern is that I do not want a noisy tire and one that will not be too harsh with a modified suspension. I still have to listen a bit to my wife because she drives it also and our preferences differ.
 
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Thanks brahtw8, I'm just trying to get some real world evaluation on them. I've heard good reports on them with the exception that they do not give good tread mileage. However, that varies so much with the type/style of driving that is done. My concern is that I do not want a noisy tire and one that will not be too harsh with a modified suspension. I still have to listen a bit to my wife because she drives it also and our preferences differ.
I do mostly highway driving, but I drive them hard at times. The ride is stiffer than with my snow tires (60s vs. 50s). As for the suspension, depends what you have. My car is overdampened and undersprung, so it corners well and rides hard.
 

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Brahtw8: On my '89 325i I have H&R OE Sport springs (1 in drop), Bilstein HDs all around, Eibach sway bars front & rear, Eibach front stress bar, M3 offset control arm bushings. It corners nicely and I really would prefer not to go much harder on the ride part. I do 15-16K per year.
 
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What size rim/tire are you running? I think the major difference between my set up is the width/sidewall height difference, 225/50/16 vs 205/60/15. I would not expect a radical difference in the ES 100 ride if you are keeping the same size tire.
 

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I am at the final step in ride mods and that is the tires and wheels. I am still running 14s and will likely be moving up to larger but I have not determined whether to go Plus one or plus two. Since I have 14 in Borbet wheels that are hand me downs from my son I have also been advised to stay with 14 inchers for the street and put Yoko AVS ES100s on the car. That is the quandry. The E30 M3 used 205-55-15.
 


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