2003 Infiniti G35 vs 2000 BMW 325ci

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The G35 Coupe just boasts a lot of horsepower, it's still only a mid-to-high $30's car. The 3-Series Coupes offer more luxury (you can tell quite easily since the interior just looks more luxurious and classy), BMW's free maintenance plan, and "details" that cost a lot but aren't apparently obvious when shopping around for a new car.
For example, it's easy to overlook that the seats of the G35C are manual recline, do not offer any memory functions, and don't offer that much adjustability (there aren't even any tilt or seat height adjustments for the front passenger). It's little things like these that aren't very noticeable at first and save a lot on production costs that make the G35C such a convincing alternative.
Well-stated MrElussive. Those are the things that a lot of people miss when looking for a new car. It is usually later when people find out about these "little" things and wish they had taken a closer/longer look at their decision.
 
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WEll i am not waiting for the 05 G35. Guaranteed it will be splendid but i think no car till that comes out will kill me i tell ya. Will let u guys no what i picked up. TRavelling to another city to look at the selections for th ebmw and G35.
just curious, isn't the 05 model year just around the corner? or is infiniti brining it out well into oct, or nov??

Mr. E you did lease your G, so it won't be as bad right?

codex: as for the fitting 2 golf bags!! bit, that was a joke ^^;; when i first saw the diagram, and how the sales person was gushing over it, i was like [rolleyes] "whatever dood" i didnt' like the non-split folding seats either.. but i also have a hell of a time fitting a golf bag into my trunk, so i can't say much..
 
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Average Jae, I did lease my G for 36 months/36K miles. The 2005 G35 is just around the corner and the sedan and coupe are receiving some serious changes.
 
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Mr. E, i know.. i've been kinda around, on and off, (at least enough to call you curby [:p] or other variations there of, but not enough to know your first name..) and seeing as you are a huge contributor to the forums w/ a G, you do tend to stick out..

along w/ brahtw8 (however you say it) and wood_e (iirc).. i still remember some noob calling out wood_e for his bimmer knowledge cuz of the taurus he drives.. i was stunned..
 
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Hahaha, yeah because we're all BMW enthusiasts here....just sometimes BMW doesn't always suit our needs at a certain point in time. My choice came down to the G35C and the 330Ci...I think if the 330Ci ZHP existed at the time of my lease I probably would have gone that direction (I've told this to ejp3 before). I truly do enjoy the 280hp on a daily basis, though. At the time of making a final decision, remember that I was driving the Jetta with the 2.slow (2.0 liter) engine and I hated the slowness of it, so a key factor in the decision was maximum horsepower and the G is very convincing in that aspect. The acceleration of the car is downright furious! I know my car isn't the fastest by any means (0-60 in 5.5 - 5.8 seconds, depending on the magazine) but when I put the petal to the metal in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th it is quite an experience for me and some local windy roads make things even more intense. [:D]
 

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Hahaha, yeah because we're all BMW enthusiasts here....just sometimes BMW doesn't always suit our needs at a certain point in time. My choice came down to the G35C and the 330Ci...I think if the 330Ci ZHP existed at the time of my lease I probably would have gone that direction (I've told this to ejp3 before). I truly do enjoy the 280hp on a daily basis, though. At the time of making a final decision, remember that I was driving the Jetta with the 2.slow (2.0 liter) engine and I hated the slowness of it, so a key factor in the decision was maximum horsepower and the G is very convincing in that aspect. The acceleration of the car is downright furious! I know my car isn't the fastest by any means (0-60 in 5.5 - 5.8 seconds, depending on the magazine) but when I put the petal to the metal in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th it is quite an experience for me and some local windy roads make things even more intense. [:D]

How does your G35 handle in the wet and in the snow? I once owned a J30 and it was terrible in the wet and snow. Is the G35 any better? I suppose that snow tires are a must for the G35 if you live in the northeast.
 
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How does your G35 handle in the wet and in the snow? I once owned a J30 and it was terrible in the wet and snow. Is the G35 any better? I suppose that snow tires are a must for the G35 if you live in the northeast.
The car comes with Michelin Pilot Sport tires so from the factory, the car is worthless in the snow. But the car comes with a limited-slip differential so with proper snow tires, the LSD, and traction control, I think it will do fine. I can't speak with experience though, I don't drive my car in the snow (I just use a different car, snow tires aren't worth it for me).
 

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I'm surprised how many people considered a Nissan at the same times as a BMW. My first and only car is the one I own. When the time came where I needed a car after living in cities where a car is a hassle, I went to order a E36 convertible, but the dealer told me a new body style was coming out, so I ordered the first month of E46 production. I never even shopped around. Now that I'm getting to know cars better, it seems like Nissan/infiniti is making head way into good cars. I have now doubt one can smoke my old 2.8 litre, but I'm sure it's not as refined (inside and out). Then again, the way BMW is going with all it's new itinerations of the 5, 7, and Z maybe even BMW has lost that edge. But with the 3, you're talking about 6 years of countinous annual improvement. I can't imagine a more well refined car on the market than the current 3 series (2.5 or 3.0 liter).
 
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I'm surprised how many people considered a Nissan at the same times as a BMW. My first and only car is the one I own. When the time came where I needed a car after living in cities where a car is a hassle, I went to order a E36 convertible, but the dealer told me a new body style was coming out, so I ordered the first month of E46 production. I never even shopped around. Now that I'm getting to know cars better, it seems like Nissan/infiniti is making head way into good cars. I have now doubt one can smoke my old 2.8 litre, but I'm sure it's not as refined (inside and out). Then again, the way BMW is going with all it's new itinerations of the 5, 7, and Z maybe even BMW has lost that edge. But with the 3, you're talking about 6 years of countinous annual improvement. I can't imagine a more well refined car on the market than the current 3 series (2.5 or 3.0 liter).
Good point, aNoodle. Just like most others on this thread, I test drove a G35 coupe prior to getting into my B'mer. And, like Mr. Ellusive, I was coming out of a VW (although mine was a Passat with Audi V6). Regarding the G35, although materials were on the cheapish side (that's to be expected when you're basically a Nissan - they make Sentras for crying out loud) I found lots to like about it. The car is hella-fast, has nice grip, interesting design, etc. But when I considered what the car would look like in 5 - 6 years, I totally gave the B'mer the nodd.

You see, I'm a long-term owner. I buy my cars and tend to trade them for new ones when I've driven them into the ground. BMW has a history of restrained methodical year-over-year updates to it's cars that retain a dignified familiar design. I've seen E30 and E36 versions that to this day look classic... no mistaking they're BMW. Can't really say that for the Japanese makes. There wasn't even a G35 model three years ago. Nothing to compare it to. And what will the 2010 models look like? I'll bet the changes will be more radical than restrained (which is why holding value is so tough for them).

You can bet no matter how BMWs change, they'll always feature the familial roundel, hoffmeister kink, kidney grille, quad headlamp treatment, rear drive, a selection of inline engines, etc. These are parts of BMWs heritage that they pass along from generation (of car) to generation (of car). These are the things that at first glance (or aurally) differentiate the brand from all others. It's tough to pick features on Japanese cars that make them stand apart so clearly from their peers - over generations.
 
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It all depends upon what is important to you. Some car buyers want to own a BMW just to say they own a BMW, and they are willing to pay a premium to own that car. In my case I consider the following items when buying a car: quality, performance, style,price, and dealer sevice. IMO Infinitis easily surpass BMWs in quality, price, and dealer service. Style of course is subjective, and with the increased HP and suspension upgrade on the '05 G35, it should easily be a performance match for a 330. So I'll be taking a hard look at the '05 G35 coupe.
 


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