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heh I remember this one time, absolutely a near death experience. I was with my friend in his zupped up Prelude and we were on the highway at night and he saw this 911. Well he blows by at first to get things going... we get into this big turn on the highway(double decker) and we can both hear the ROAR of one very pissed off 911.

I think the last thing I said was here he comes.. and BAM that sucker blows by us, and of course at that my friend hits the gas. We're up to 140 range I think. The Porsche is in the lead of course and all of a sudden there are like 5 or 6 cars scattered around with about 1-2 car distance in between each. The 911 bops and weave in and out like nothing, a split second later its our turn and I swear we were .01 secs from dying, but my friend is an extremely good driver and we did our own weaving. We lost the race(of course) but at least not our lives....

I'd never pull a stunt like that... funny thing was I didn't even get scared till we were out of that jumble of cars "Dude man! We almost F*'ing died!"
 
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I completely agree with brahtw8....it really takes a graph of your engine's power band to figure out the best shift points. But an easy guideline of driving hard is to just shift at redline. It's always a great idea to hold the easiest gear for as long as possible!
 
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Nah...I'm assuming the tester is a BMW owner/fan and was mad biased in the test. Probably drove the 330i harder than all the other cars. I cannot believe 225hp and 3,300lb(approximately) does 0-060 in 5.85 seconds.
 

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MrElussive said:
Nah...I'm assuming the tester is a BMW owner/fan and was mad biased in the test. Probably drove the 330i harder than all the other cars. I cannot believe 225hp and 3,300lb(approximately) does 0-060 in 5.85 seconds.
That's why it is the general concensus that BMW under rates their hp and torque numbers. Or, maybe German's have more powerful horses than the USA. [:p]
 
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I am surprised that "Redshift" was not taken. That is so cool, how did I miss that one. [?|] [:D] [rofl]


[offtopic] But


Redshift
A redshift is a shift in the frequency of a photon toward lower energy, or longer wavelength. The redshift is defined as the change in the wavelength of the light divided by the rest wavelength of the light, as

z = (Observed wavelength - Rest wavelength)/(Rest wavelength)

Note that postive values of z correspond to increased wavelengths (redshifts).

Different types of redshifts have different causes.

The Doppler Redshift results from the relative motion of the light emitting object and the observer. If the source of light is moving away from you then the wavelength of the light is stretched out, i.e., the light is shifted towards the red. These effects, individually called the blueshift, and the redshift are together known as doppler shifts. The shift in the wavelength is given by a simple formula

(Observed wavelength - Rest wavelength)/(Rest wavelength) = (v/c)

so long as the velocity v is much less than the speed of light. A relativistic doppler formula is required when velocity is comparable to the speed of light.

The Cosmological Redshift is a redshift caused by the expansion of space. The wavelength of light increases as it traverses the expanding universe between its point of emission and its point of detection by the same amount that space has expanded during the crossing time.

The Gravitational Redshift is a shift in the frequency of a photon to lower energy as it climbs out of a gravitational field.
 

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Bryan330i said:
I am surprised that "Redshift" was not taken. That is so cool, how did I miss that one. [?|] [:D] [rofl]


[offtopic] But


Redshift
A redshift is a shift in the frequency of a photon toward lower energy, or longer wavelength. The redshift is defined as the change in the wavelength of the light divided by the rest wavelength of the light, as

z = (Observed wavelength - Rest wavelength)/(Rest wavelength)

Note that postive values of z correspond to increased wavelengths (redshifts).

Different types of redshifts have different causes.

The Doppler Redshift results from the relative motion of the light emitting object and the observer. If the source of light is moving away from you then the wavelength of the light is stretched out, i.e., the light is shifted towards the red. These effects, individually called the blueshift, and the redshift are together known as doppler shifts. The shift in the wavelength is given by a simple formula

(Observed wavelength - Rest wavelength)/(Rest wavelength) = (v/c)

so long as the velocity v is much less than the speed of light. A relativistic doppler formula is required when velocity is comparable to the speed of light.

The Cosmological Redshift is a redshift caused by the expansion of space. The wavelength of light increases as it traverses the expanding universe between its point of emission and its point of detection by the same amount that space has expanded during the crossing time.

The Gravitational Redshift is a shift in the frequency of a photon to lower energy as it climbs out of a gravitational field.
I started that name when I had my 2000 Ford Lightning with 440HP. I figured I should be moving away from people I race so quickly that it would cause a redshift. (My truck was red also). Another meaning is that I only shift at redline. [:o)] Lastly all my vehicles have been red (including my current 330Ci).
 
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Germans do have more hp per engine... the 330 does 231 hp in Europe, the 325 does 192. European BMWs tank 98 at the pump......

BTW, a friend of mine owns a Mustang GT and we've 'compared' our cars 2/3 times and both cars perform exactly the same (we tested until 120 mph). 1 time the cars were exactly in formation from 50 til 120 mph......

204 hp/410 NM (BMW 330diesel) against approx 260hp / 320????NM
 
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Germans do have more hp per engine... the 330 does 231 hp in Europe, the 325 does 192. European BMWs tank 98 at the pump......

BTW, a friend of mine owns a Mustang GT and we've 'compared' our cars 2/3 times and both cars perform exactly the same (we tested until 120 mph). 1 time the cars were exactly in formation from 50 til 120 mph......

204 hp/410 NM (BMW 330diesel) against approx 260hp / 320????NM
European horsepower is measured differently than US horsepower. One US horsepower is actually a little more than one European horsepower.

For example, the US M3 is rated at 333 hp. The european M3 is rated at 343 hp with the same engine. (Note, only about 5 hp. of that difference is due to the different units. The rest of the difference is exhaust/emissions related and is an actual power difference).

European octane rating is also different. My 325i asks for 95, but I believe it is RON or MON only, versus the US (RON + MON)/2.
 

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beat a G35 thursday!

I took a G35 thursday afternoon in the twisties - they're real quick though, it was a matter of technical-curve driving, but in terms of pull, the Fin would have killed my humble 328!

That's ok- for the 350Z, that's what my sportbikes are for- and an especial FU goes out from the bottom of my heart to the jackass in the Vette on the ocean parkway last sunday - If you're out there, hope my 4th gear power shift choked you through your vents as I passed you![hihi]
 
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MrElussive said:
Nah...I'm assuming the tester is a BMW owner/fan and was mad biased in the test. Probably drove the 330i harder than all the other cars. I cannot believe 225hp and 3,300lb(approximately) does 0-060 in 5.85 seconds.
There is no mistake there. The car did get below 6.0sec to 60mph on a regular basis. They have not abused the clutch and never power-shifted. 330's are just that quick once they get a bit of mileage on the engine. It opens up after ~10K miles. Plus, Redshift is correct, BMW is notorious for underrating the HP numbers of their engines, where the Japanese usually over-rate theirs unfotunately (except for the TT Supra and Skyline GT-R).
 


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