Accord Coupe V6 6spd faster than 330?

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Yes 330i is 0.2 seconds slower if both data were correct, but so what? It is a BMW 330i and that is a Honda Accord ! You kow what I'm saying?

If the acc. time from 0 to 60 MPh is the only indicator you buy a car, then get the Accord.
 
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C&D is so full of shit with 0-60 times. The 240hp V6 Accord Coupe (FWD) is supposed to do 0-60 in 7 seconds, not 5.9....jeez, what a crock of shit. Who even cares? What would you rather whip, a 330i or an Accord Coupe? (Although the Accord Coupe looks real nice for its price range).
 
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Honda Accord may be fractions of a second faster off the line than a 330.

In all cases - so what?
 

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If Honda beats 330i at 0-60, it will problably beat it at 0-100 also as Honda has 35 more horses under the hood. Honda makes a great product. Try not to be so arrogant about your BMW. Learn to have respect for what others have.

I personally prefer the BMW becuase of the cockpit, the handling and the styling. There are others that are faster, I just prefer the BMW.
 
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first off let me say that hondas are great cars .... however i wouldnt give up my 325i for an accord ..... even if the honda is faster. acceleration is fun, but its not everything. simply said the bmw is an all around better car.

just my .02$

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If Honda beats 330i at 0-60, it will problably beat it at 0-100 also as Honda has 35 more horses under the hood. Honda makes a great product. Try not to be so arrogant about your BMW. Learn to have respect for what others have.

I personally prefer the BMW becuase of the cockpit, the handling and the styling. There are others that are faster, I just prefer the BMW.


BMW 330i PP In article 235 hp 70-0 Brake 158 Feet

Honda v6 Cpe In Article 240 hp 70-0 Brake 181 Feet!!!![xx(] [B)]
 
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I'm going to repeat myself and say, I think C&D is full of shit. I always feel like C&D is full of shit...out of the automotive magazines out there, it seems like C&D has their hands in everyone's back pocket. They give out the awards way too easily to BMW, Valentine One, etc. Motor Trend, Automobile Magazine, Road & Track, and those others still seem to be fair. But C&D always seems to give some cars 0-60 times that are just too quick, or to give out certain cars the winning award, when it just does not deserve it.

Accord V6 Coupe: 240hp, 3,250lbs
BMW 330Ci Coupe: 225hp, 3,285lbs

As you can see, the Accord has 15hp more and 35lbs less (the weight difference is marginal, but there is a slight difference in hp). Now the way I feel is, we all know that FWD cars are traditionally slower than RWD cars. For one reason becase FWD cars peel out like crazy when you drop the clutch and rev it up, and FWD is always traditionally slower when accelerating because of the drive setup. I would honestly be surprised if the 240hp Accord V6 Coupe (6-speed manual version) would do 0-60 quicker than 7.0 seconds.
 

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Now the way I feel is, we all know that FWD cars are traditionally slower than RWD cars. For one reason becase FWD cars peel out like crazy when you drop the clutch and rev it up, and FWD is always traditionally slower when accelerating because of the drive setup.
No, the reaseon it seams like that is because a FWD car suffers from torque steer which means if going in any direction but dead straight it will pull in that direction. so FWD cars usually have less power than RWD so it gives the impression that RWD is faster.

and Jimdan it will NOT beat it to 100 as traditionally the BMW has amazing 3rd 4th gear acceleration and will catch up and pass most things on the road. remember that in 3rd and 4th and M5 will not be beaten this side on a 911turbo!!!! think about it.
 
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jimdan said:
If Honda beats 330i at 0-60, it will problably beat it at 0-100 also as Honda has 35 more horses under the hood. Honda makes a great product. Try not to be so arrogant about your BMW. Learn to have respect for what others have.

I personally prefer the BMW becuase of the cockpit, the handling and the styling. There are others that are faster, I just prefer the BMW.
That's a big *if* given C&D has some suspect #'s, which don't even match what Honda posts on their own website.

Because of their powerband, and lack of loss of power to the wheels (about 10-12% vs 20% loss in most every other car). What this means, is that a BMW can and will run with and beat cars with 'more' HP than it (to an extent). Performance is the winner!

HP doesn't mean everything, by far. How much torque is that Honda putting down? I'd bet alot less than the HP it has. What about the BMW? Usually they have more torque then HP. What's that mean? When you stomp the petal, the BMW is gonna 'pull' alot harder and get into it's power band quicker than most cars. Performance wins again.

That's not being arrogant, that's just simple facts. And given that the times quoted are from C&D, (and off by about 1.4 seconds from the info Honda gives on it's own website) I don't put much faith in what C&D says..

Honda Accord is a good car, quite affordable, reliable, and costs less to maintain than a BMW. Good reasons to have it. However don't begin to say that it can outperform it.. Performance is BMW's game.
 
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FWD is always traditionally slower when accelerating because of the drive setup.
Correct, front wheel drive will never be faster than a comparable RWD, because of physics, not necessarily because of torque steer. When accelerating, the weight of the vehicle is transferred to the rear, giving the rear wheels more traction and the front wheels less (on FWD and RWD cars). Only a certain amount of power can be put to the pavement(without wheel spin) in all cases dependent on the suspension, tires and drive set-up, with RWD having the advantage. This is the reason they don’t make FWD dragsters. Honda may have more hp, but BMW has more torque and it’s available 1500 rpms sooner. Having that torque available sooner compensates for the fewer horsepower in a run to sixty.
 
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My friend Oak (as in tree) is taller than Michael Jordan.
Roseann Barr has bigger boobs than Cameron Diaz.
A Big Mac costs less than a steak at Lutece.
Most people on this board have IQ's higher than George Bush.
Typewriters last longer than computers.
The power grid in Iraq was working yesterday.
Honda Accord may be fractions of a second faster off the line than a 330.

In all cases - so what?
well said... [hihi]
 
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Compare the slalom and skidpad G force ratings. I haven't bothered, but I'll bet the bimmer kicks the Honda's butt. Even if the Honda is faster 0-60 or 1/4 mile, a stock 330 will eat an Accord for lunch on an Autocross or Road course - handling and broad powerband gets the job done.
 
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I own a 330i with performance package. I have driven the Honda v-6 coupe. I would not trade my 330i for 2 new Honda v-6 coupes. Overall I do even consider the Honda to be the same league as the BMW.

Yeah, but you can buy 2 Hondas for the price of 1 330i. [:D]
 


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