Black sapphire metallic or plain old black??

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i say jet black, only because matellic has silver shine to it, which to me lessens the sleek deep black.

but you'll just have to goto the dealer, set them side by side on a nice day and decide. on the other hand imola is pretty nice color [:D]
 

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I use Zymol Carbon on the 750iL, it is designed to be used on black cars. The wax is applied with the fingertips, no rag, using straight lines. Before the wax can glaze or dry it is removed with a 100% cotton cloth (I purchase the packages at Costco) again using straight lines. After I have waxed the entire car I go over it with another clean cotton towel.
Big D-

Which would you use for a Sapphire black ? I have sold my Sapphire Black 330Cic, but would like to give it a really nice hand detail before...signing over to the person who bought her.

Any advice for a really good last "spiffer-upper"..??? there is only a few "very, very, mild" wash marks...ones you could only see with a magnifying glass in full sun on a Tuesday...lol.

What would be your last detail product on this...?????
 

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Flashinthepan use the Carbon, it really brings the black shine out and I rarely get any swirl marks. If you want it done right, and to answer Chakueem's question I use Zymol HD Cleanse to strip the wax. There is a shortcut that I learned here on these fourms. Wash the car first using Dawn dish soap. This will remove the old wax. Same principal as HD cleanse, but much easier and faster. You can apply Carbon using a cloth wax applicator.
 

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I've used Zymol. Spent $95 and kinda felt suckered afterwards.

It took hours to clean, buff, and remove. And the shine was not that
impressive, especially considering the massive effort.

So I tried MacGuire's Gold (which I had seen recommended but went with
Zymol anyway), Zymol is expensive, it has to be goog, right?

Well, the MacGuire's Gold came out better, took less time, and less effort.

After reading some tweaker auto detail sites, with guys who show cars, I
learned that they apply carnuba wax on top of the polymer waxes for a
killer shine.

So I now do the same, wax with MacGuire's Gold, then apply the Zymol carnuba
wax on top the next morning.

Also, carnuba wax evaporates in a few weeks, where the synthetic waxes can
last for months.

Try the MacGuire's Gold on a small area and see what you think (it runs about $12).
 

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You are not supposed to let the Zymol dry on the car. I can wax my roadster in an hour at most. And Zymol Carbon is about $36, as is Z3 Glaze. I understand that some people have "better results" with different products and that you may be able to use another wax and get great results, I can only say check my vehicles in the gallery, all are Zymol protected and the 91 318is has 140k on her and that is factory paint. The 750iL has 101k and all factory paint. Time and age are a true test!
 
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tks, black330i. yes, they are...well actually they're replicas with dunlop wintersport m2s. got them for just the winter but now i think i like them better than the rims that came with the car. [:)]
 
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Who knows anything about paint sealant? The dealer is suggesting I get the new car "sealed"...says it's guaranteed against paint fade for as long as I own the car...and claims I never have to wax it! I'm being offered a "special deal" of Cdn$399 rather than the usual Cdn$599. Thoughts?
 

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I have never been a fan of these sealants. Even Consumer Reports does not like them as they are 95% profit. The local dealer here does not even offer it and the sun here is a lot worse than most any other weather. The dealer even provides a new "car care" kit free with each sale. Nothing beats a good wax job whether you use Zymol, P21S, or another reputable brand. My cars have won its class in club concours events using Zymol but I understand that P21S is gaining in popularity and stature as an excellent product and I just might give it a try.
 
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"Hi, neighbor..."

[wave] rjp325i

I got your message and thanks.

Looks like I'll be back in Henderson (home) the last week in April and looking forward to seeing you at your meeting in May.

Any tips on cabinets for my garage, Home Depot or Lowes? I'm looking for about a 16'
length and near ceiling high. I'm going to fill it with a bunch of detailing stuff. I've been using
the Zymol but it's so damn hard to rub off and creates a lot of dust. My next wax will be the
"p21s" products.

One of my projects will be to remove my wheels in order to be able to clean [A L L] of the brake dust and crud (front & back) from the 10-double spoke 'M' badged wheels on my
'ZHP'. And I know what everyone's thinking... Yes, I am going to re-torque the wheels when
I install the wheel back on the car, which is what BMW recommends. Roundel magazine
(Dec. '03) has recommended a 'Snap-on' brand, 30-150 ft./lb. torque wrench for the job ($250.)
All I need to know is what the ft./lb. torque specification is for an '04 330i 'ZHP', help-help!!! [unsure]
 

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PaddyLV: The wheels should be torqued to 88.5 ft lbs or 120 newton meters. This is slightly more than the earlier model recommendations. The May chapter mtg is at Round Table Pizza's back room in Summerlin on May 11 at 7 pm. The Chapter driving school is May 15 & 16 at the Las Vegas Motor Speedway. This year we will be using the outside 2.3 mile road course track and not the 2.5 mile which uses part of the NASCAR oval as we did last year (too expensive). Take a look at the Huskey brand torque wrench at Home Depot. I've used it with good results and it goes to 250 ft lbs and is about $60. I also use a Craftman that goes up to 75 ft lbs. When using Zymol Creme or Carbon you can only do a small section at a time and do not let it dry. I started using Zymol several years ago when I was still with the New York Chapter with good results. My son likes the P21S and I might give it a try soon.
 
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[thumb] rjp325i,

Thank you very much for the info on the torque spec.'s. I thought I might have to go to
Barnes & Noble's automotive section and break out a Chilton's to research the ft/lb torque,
so thanks again...

I will see you at the May meeting in Summerlin.
 


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