Going to order a car...have questions!!!

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hop on Southwest Airlines and come to Houston........I have driven (3) 2003 325's and 330's in the last three weeks alone.....two of the cars only had 26 and 32 miles respectively when I got the car for a week while mine remains in the shop......my dealership uses them for loaner cars until they reach 5000 miles and then sells them........the one I have currently is

2003 325
Total Suggested Retail Price 34620.00
Alpine White
Sand Leather
Premium Package (Includes Moonroof)
Automatic Transmission
5 Speed Steptronic
Bi-Xenon Headlights
CD (but not Harmon)
16" Wheels

600 Miles (all but 26 are by me and I treat the car as if it was mine)

It has a rattle in the dash board, I like the AC better than in my 330


Good luck..........
 
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Hester said:

I'm not going to do the European delivery...although it would be nice! I just want to order one that I can take delivery on at the dealership.

Thanks,

Eric
You might want to re-read my post. I was responding to your question about how allocation works at BMW dealers. I was explaining it as it was explained to me - the differences between dealer allocation and ED allocation.
 

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Kirby,

I see. Thanks for the information - very helpful!

I wonder if I can assume that for standard delivery to the dealer on an custom ordered car, that they are still paying just the invoice and destination - no additional fees to pass on due to the custom order? So, I could possibly still try to get a close to invoice price when I custom order the car I want?

Eric
 
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auto vs. manual

there is no debate ... auto or manual is a personal preference ...

ive had both manuals and autos ... both are great ...

you will be very have with either, however ...

do not get a manual if there is any small part of you that doesnt like it ...

i always go into buying a car loving every single piece of it ... now is not the time to cut corners =)

Ben
 

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I've definitely decided on the automatic. Yes, manual is more fun to drive and you have more control and performance, etc. - BUT - I've had manual in every car I've owned since I was 16 and I now just want an easier drive! I live in L.A. also and I'm sick of driving in traffic every single day with manual trans.
 

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You hadn't said anything about Euro delivery so I didn't think you were exploring that. I think someone my have just read it into your question.

My dealer tells me which cars are harder to get. It's usually the ones I want! With the 330cic, he told me they get 325's about 4:1 over 330's so the 325's are easier to get. The convertibles were more difficult to get and I had to wait over a month for one of their allocated 330cic's to enter production. They had an unsold production number for one 9/5/03 so that's the one I ordered. He pulled out his list and showed me which cars were available and when.

My dealer sells all the convertibles he can get so wasn't inclined to come off sticker much. Still, this is my second BMW from him so he did come off $500. I'll also get a $500 rebate because I'm a member of the BMW CCA. There's no trade in so it will be a cash deal for them.

As far as prices go, you can check the Internet at Edmunds.com and find out what others in your area are paying for the car. I don't know how accurate it is but I always feel a little better when I pay a little less. Also you'll see exactly what the dealer pays for the car and how much he's making on the deal. I don't begrudge the dealer a fair profit and I understand there's more of a profit in it for him on a higher demand car. My dealer also adds $995 to all his cars on a little white sticker next to the window sticker. I don't waste any time at all in ignoring that and if the salesman mentions it, I just tell him "I'm not interested in paying that". It never seems to come up again.

I put down a $2500 deposit charged to a credit card. Someone had said above that they essentially "hold the check". Not my dealer, the charge went through already. I'd assume that since I ordered a car that they wouldn't have ordered, (standard transmission, no premium package, no nav, not siliver, etc) that the $2500 is probably not refundable although I haven't checked. I put the deposit on the credit card because I get frequent flier miles for credit card charges.

When the car is 3-4 days from delivery, I'll call them and get an itemized final amount, then print a check. I'll do this to avoid that hour long sales pitch for windowetching/undercoating/extendedwarranty/paint treatment/andGodknowswhatelse they're pitching. It's harder to pitch that stuff if the car isn't there and it's a lot easier to show up with a preprinted check and swap the check for the car.

Hope this helps.
 

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As I understand it, they are right. Eurodelivery autos do not come from dealer allocation so if someone wants a high demand car, you can still deal on a Eurodelivery. Also I was in Munich a couple of months ago, if you have the time, Eurodelivery would be a very nice option. The bummer is the weeks it takes to ship the car back after you return.

There shouldn't be a "fee" for ordering a car. Someone had mentioned that as well. Basically an ordered car is sold at the time it hits the lot so the dealer isn't paying interest on the inventory of that car. A car on the lot costs the dealer money each day it goes unsold. For that reason I'd expect to pay less for a car that I ordered, not more.

Good luck.
 

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Greeps,

I am NOT doing Euro delivery. I want to order a car to be picked up at my dealer because my option choices are odd and not really available. I've done a lot more research today and have finally got a lot of my questions answered. Now I know that if I order a 325i tomorrow it will be an '04 model. I found that I could probably get a deal somewhere around 3-4% above invoice, depending on several factors which will be different from dealer to dealer. I did get the invoice prices on the 2004 325i FINALLY.

Now I have a new question:

It looks like Myrtlewood is not an option on the new 2004 325i, except with the Premium Package? This is from looking at the dealers 2004 model year price sheet.

Thanks,

Eric
 
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Go for the Premium Package. It is really worth the price. People who don't get the Premium Package usually don't get it because they don't care for the Power Seats and/or the Power Moonroof. But I think that it is really poor to care enough to get a BMW and not care about Power Seats.
I apologize if this offends anyone, but this is truly how I feel.
 
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Eric, I'll add one more thought: If I were getting a 325i, I would definitely get the sport package. I've owned 325i 's both with and without SP, and I would never get without again. Big difference in handling. This is personal preference, of course, but just wanted to throw in my $.02.

Also, when I was getting my last car, I got the dealer to agree on the price ($1500 over invoice) right up front before any details were discussed. When you do this---agree on a flat amount over invoice---you will end up paying invoice price for all options you add on afterward. If you negotiate in terms of MSRP or in terms of percent over invoice, you will pay more.
 


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