It's Baaaack!! '04 330cic Steptronic slipping AGAIN

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i started to notice a slippage when i was in reverse and still rolling backwards and slipped it into drive and than proceeded to drive off.. after i stop doing that, by coming to a complete stop when i was in reverse and than shifting into drive this remedied the problem. Hope this helps. Has anyone else had a problem like this or is it just me
 
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I can't remember who asked this question (I think it was Bmw 325i 7803)... I saw my buddy from the dealership tonight (He was at 7 series traning all week). He said that they DO NOT pull the engine for tranny swaps/clutch pack replacements.

Just an FYI.....
 

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Good memory, I did ask the question.

I guess I will never know if the engine was pulled or not, except that it shouldn't have been, the engine which seemed tilted backwards isn't as titled backwards anymore after some "under the table" tweaking by the dealership. My only question is why would they pull it out anyway? Was it one of those "tight-screw-wont-budge" cases, so they went in from above??

Also does anyone know what would cause a sound from the transmission during acceleration, reminiscent of a worn out taxi accelerating??? I'd really appreciate it if anyone could offer any input on this.
 
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Do you work for BMW also?

Kirby said:
It's back - the cold start -> reverse -> forward slipping problem happened Saturday and Sunday this weekend. A BMW NA tech had patched the transmission software 2 weeks ago and it seemed to fix it, but it's back.

I'm going to give it another couple of days to make sure it's consistent, and the dealer will get a call. This will be the third time I've had it in. Time to start mentioning the Lemon Law when I talk to them....

Maybe it should be called the SLIPtronic.....

How can you be so unthoughtful after you yourself experienced so much BS from BMW??

I want to here from BMW also. BMW has got to answer these questions.
 

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Simple question for you Kirb

Kirby said:
It's back - the cold start -> reverse -> forward slipping problem happened Saturday and Sunday this weekend. A BMW NA tech had patched the transmission software 2 weeks ago and it seemed to fix it, but it's back.

I'm going to give it another couple of days to make sure it's consistent, and the dealer will get a call. This will be the third time I've had it in. Time to start mentioning the Lemon Law when I talk to them....

Maybe it should be called the SLIPtronic.....
I have some questions. You started this post October 12, 2003. What regrets do you have in handling things the way you have?

Do you feel BMW has handled the situation properly?

Would you want to help others avoid all the frustration you were forced to endure? You seem to at times be willing to defend BMW and for the life of me after reading your posts I can't figure out why.
 
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No regrets in handling it the way I did:
- I like the car (that's why I bought it, right?)
- My DEALER provided outstanding service - I give credit where it is due, that is NOT defending BMW NA. So many people complain when they get lousy service, why shouldn't a dealer be recognized for good service?
- I had legal advice to follow the Lemon Law as my best, solid recourse that would provide a relatively quick resolution. That's what I did.

Do I feel BMW has handled the situation properly? Read my response CAREFULLY please:
- For MY situation, a six month old car, one of the first to report the problem, I feel that they handled it the best they could with the information they had at the time. I am satisfied with the outcome for MY situation.
- For NEW BUYERS as of Aug/Sept 2003 or there abouts, NO, I feel BMW NA should have handled it differently. Stopped sales, warned buyers, fixed on-lot cars, etc. I have NEVER defended BMW in any manner regarding this matter - where do you get that impression? Feel free to prove me wrong by quoting an old post of mine.

Don't confuse challenging someone who posts bad information with defending BMW. I HAVE challenged people who post bad or misleading information or outright lies for the sake of truth and accuracy. That is not defending BMW.

Would I want to help others avoid the frustration? YES, in my opinion that's exactly what I have been doing on this board. Myself and many others feel that by sharing our experiences, it helps others make better informed decisions about their situation. I allowed BMW to experiment with my car for a few software patches. That helped many others by quickly proving that software patches were not the solution. Many of us were told that our early failed transmissions went back for "dissection" to determine what was failing. That helped to resolve the problem.

But for some reason that I don't understand, some people see the pain that many of us went through as idiotic, inaction, collusion with BMW, defending BMW, etc. If this was the wrong thing to do, what was the right thing? Get tied up in years of litigation?

Everyone forgets one important fact - in the early days, the WIDESPREAD nature of the problem was not known, even here on the internet. We thought we were just a few unlucky souls with an isolated problem.....
 
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Kirby said:
No regrets in handling it the way I did:
- I like the car (that's why I bought it, right?)
- My DEALER provided outstanding service - I give credit where it is due, that is NOT defending BMW NA. So many people complain when they get lousy service, why shouldn't a dealer be recognized for good service?
- I had legal advice to follow the Lemon Law as my best, solid recourse that would provide a relatively quick resolution. That's what I did.

Do I feel BMW has handled the situation properly? Read my response CAREFULLY please:
- For MY situation, a six month old car, one of the first to report the problem, I feel that they handled it the best they could with the information they had at the time. I am satisfied with the outcome for MY situation.
- For NEW BUYERS as of Aug/Sept 2003 or there abouts, NO, I feel BMW NA should have handled it differently. Stopped sales, warned buyers, fixed on-lot cars, etc. I have NEVER defended BMW in any manner regarding this matter - where do you get that impression? Feel free to prove me wrong by quoting an old post of mine.

Don't confuse challenging someone who posts bad information with defending BMW. I HAVE challenged people who post bad or misleading information or outright lies for the sake of truth and accuracy. That is not defending BMW.

Would I want to help others avoid the frustration? YES, in my opinion that's exactly what I have been doing on this board. Myself and many others feel that by sharing our experiences, it helps others make better informed decisions about their situation. I allowed BMW to experiment with my car for a few software patches. That helped many others by quickly proving that software patches were not the solution. Many of us were told that our early failed transmissions went back for "dissection" to determine what was failing. That helped to resolve the problem.

But for some reason that I don't understand, some people see the pain that many of us went through as idiotic, inaction, collusion with BMW, defending BMW, etc. If this was the wrong thing to do, what was the right thing? Get tied up in years of litigation?

Everyone forgets one important fact - in the early days, the WIDESPREAD nature of the problem was not known, even here on the internet. We thought we were just a few unlucky souls with an isolated problem.....
And I completely agree. I feel that for my situation, BMW was quick to assess, quick to order the replacement, and quick to repair it. However, I purchased my car in 10/03 ... and certainly ... I would have preferred that they were up front and honest ... allowing me to know at THAT point that there were possible issues (I probably would have delayed my order). However, having been through business school, I UNDERSTAND ... I DON'T ENDORSE ... BUT I UNDERSTAND ... how the automobile business works and I understand why they weren't up front. This doesn't justify that conduct and I completely agree with those who feel that BMW did their customers a disservice by NOT being upfront.

So ... to a large extent ... the groups that appear to be "competing" on this board are actually in agreement and share a lot of common ground. Isn't that interesting?
 
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LarryE said:
And I completely agree. I feel that for my situation, BMW was quick to assess, quick to order the replacement, and quick to repair it. However, I purchased my car in 10/03 ... and certainly ... I would have preferred that they were up front and honest ... allowing me to know at THAT point that there were possible issues (I probably would have delayed my order). However, having been through business school, I UNDERSTAND ... I DON'T ENDORSE ... BUT I UNDERSTAND ... how the automobile business works and I understand why they weren't up front. This doesn't justify that conduct and I completely agree with those who feel that BMW did their customers a disservice by NOT being upfront.

So ... to a large extent ... the groups that appear to be "competing" on this board are actually in agreement and share a lot of common ground. Isn't that interesting?
Agreed for the most part, EXCEPT that I believe the "recall" group gives the impression to new owners that their only course of action is to wait around for a recall to be issued. That's what I thought when I first came here. Luckily I took the time to read through ALL of the threads so I could get the full picture and get my car fixed immediately!
 
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mrich777 said:
I've tried to search this thread but to no avail. Has BMW announced which VIN's were affected or which build dates in which factories?

These are the models and dates of manufacture listed in the TSB. If you're falls in this group it DOES NOT mean that you have a problem, it just means that yours is potentially affected. If you are actually experiencing the slipping problem, then take the car to your dealer and have them verify and order you a new transmission. Tell your Service Advisor to look up BMW service bulletin number: SI B 24 07 03 dated February 2003, if they aren't already aware of the exact nature of the problem. That certainly sped things up on my repair, I handed them a copy of the bulletin and they had a new tranny ordered the same day.

Models/Dates:

E46 with GM5: 325iA, 325xiA, 325xiTA, 330xiA from 09/02 up to 12/03

E46 with GM5: 325CiA, 325CicA, 330iA, 330CiA, 330CicA, 325iTA, from 03/03 up to 12/03

E53 X5 3.0iA with GM5 from 09/02 up to 12/03

E83 X3 3.0iA with GM5 from introduction up to 12/03

P.S. - Info on this issue is posted ALL OVER this site, just scroll through the past threads.
 


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