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hm...good point codex. is bmw really that much more efficient? and that really can be a good explanation why the bimmers are still so fast even with the lower power. but how do they achieve that? less bearings or fricition points in general? other more quality lubricants?
 
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Inline design is very efficient as well as FWD

RWD has more parasitic drive losses because your turning a drive shaft and the diff is at the end of the car....6ft+ away from the motor...

A Maxima is quick and 265 in a fwd car should be 225whp or so however the new nissan motor is putting down nice power and some 350z's which are 280hp are putting down 240-256whp stock....so 220 would be the low end value for a Maxima

Hp to weight and gearing determines 0-60 POTENTIAL.....traction, driver, road conditions will effectively drive the 0-60 up because to reach 100% potential conditions have to be PERFECT...such is hardly ever the case with a real world drag race

I would say if the Bimmer has 225 and the Maxima is 265 other factors will effect the outcome....driver is a big one...traction is the next one and launch

WHo ever launches harder will probably win but I suspect once the speeds increase the maxima will pull away the higher the speed...it just has more power with similar weight...plain physics

Wonder if my 210hp Civic could "hang" [hihi]
 
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Abdoman said:
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Good points, QuickCivicGuy. The driver and traction conditions would definitely play a big factor in the matchup. Another thing to remember is that vehicles with manual transmissions have significantly less parasitic drivetrain loss - a good chunk of the parasitic loss in an automatic-equipped car comes from the power required to run the internals in the tranny.

QuickCivicGuy said:
Wonder if my 210hp Civic could "hang" [hihi]
Gee, I wonder if I could whoop both of them in my 350 cubic inch Camaro? [burnout] [shake]
 
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I specify and sell hazardous lighting fixtures for offshore and land rigs.......call on the drilling contractors, electrical contractors and engineering firms.[;)]

Tonight I had customers from Singapore and one from Scotland........they loved the car but felt scared......[rofl] [rofl] [rofl] Nothing like two men in the back seat holding on!!!!!!!!!!
 
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QuickCivicGuy said:
Inline design is very efficient as well as FWD

RWD has more parasitic drive losses because your turning a drive shaft and the diff is at the end of the car....6ft+ away from the motor...
Wouldn't the RWD be better for traction? When you launch, weight shifts to the rear of the car. That's why it squats. If it's RWD, that's good b/c it puts more weight onto the wheels with power thus giving a better launch versus FWD which raises and thus loses traction. That's how I read BMW's website and all those import magazines like Sport Compact Car, Import Tuner, Turbo, etc.
 
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from the traction point of view that is correct. i think that civicguy is talking about friction as an isolated aspect and does not include traction in the statement you quoted.
 
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Yes, the maxima would win...I've owned an Infiniti and it had a weaker engine than the new maxima but was still faster than most cars out there (including bmw, except M3, etc. ofcourse).

Nissan's engines are fast and provide quick acceleration...
 


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