It's Baaaack!! '04 330cic Steptronic slipping AGAIN
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The dealer told me all transmissions say rebuilt, it could be new or rebuilt. He said it wouldn't matter due to the fact the only thing used would be the caseing, all the other part would be new. It didn't take long for them to get the transmission in. I didn't even take my car in to have it checked I only told them of the problem I was having, then one day a week or so later I got a call from them saying they have me a trany. I was origionaly told I would have to bring the car in for them to write the problem up and submit it to BMW. Then they would be able to order the new transmisson. It may be that they looked up the date my car was made and knew it had the bad transmission in it, they do have the info of dates cars were made that got the bad transmissions. Hope this helps LarryE.
Today was the second time it happened... after backing up 150 feet... and then shifting from my driveway into a road up an incline in D and the car revved up to 4-4500rpm while slowly moving up the hill till it caught and began to accelerate quickly..... Typical thing I guess since it was 34 degrees when I started the engine. I still dont think I have a sliptronic so im not gonna bother with the dealer, I dont think its a major problem anyway
Same here on the "rebuilt" statement. My dealer said the casing is the only part they keep.
The service tech told me on the phone that they would get a trany for me. When I stopped in later for something else, the SA said that they need to actually see the car first BEFORE BMW will send them a tranny
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. So now I have to waste some time so they can see it "slip". My wife said it actually slipped a few times while driving around town! The car has 600 miles on it!
outpost22 said:
Same here on the "rebuilt" statement. My dealer said the casing is the only part they keep.
The service tech told me on the phone that they would get a trany for me. When I stopped in later for something else, the SA said that they need to actually see the car first BEFORE BMW will send them a tranny . So now I have to waste some time so they can see it "slip". My wife said it actually slipped a few times while driving around town! The car has 600 miles on it!
The service tech told me on the phone that they would get a trany for me. When I stopped in later for something else, the SA said that they need to actually see the car first BEFORE BMW will send them a tranny
. So now I have to waste some time so they can see it "slip". My wife said it actually slipped a few times while driving around town! The car has 600 miles on it!
Ok this morning it was 29 degrees outside and after giving a bit of gas while reversing out of my driveway I reversed out towards the left and while the front wheels were turned to the right to start up the road I decided to give it a lot of gas after shifting into D to see if it would do it and sure enough the engine revved up to 5500-6000rpm between that like it was choking while not moving so i immediately released the gas and then gave it a second shot but with normal throttle this time and it after a second "caught" and accelerated as usual...
I've come to the conclusion that this occurs most severely when:
1) It is below 35 outside, the colder the greater the chance of it being replicated with "severity"
2) You use the gas pedal when backing out of your driveway, especially if the distance exceeds 100 feet.
3) The car has to then accelerate up an incline, especially with the front wheels in a turned position.
4) You tend to give a generous amount of gas upon shifting into D...
So my question is, since the so called "slipping" only occurs in these extreme conditions, although it has during the summer made a slight bump feeling on the occasion ( same start off conditions minus the heavy foot on the accelerator and low temperature) how am I supposed to go about bringing this issue to the dealer, since in the dealers warm garage and if just taking off in D from a parked position I can almost 100% guarantee it wont happen.... Since it is afterall a very mild of case of the sliptronic ( it has never slipped on driving on city streets etc).. And also would anyone know if it has something to do with production date mine was from Jan 2003 in Munich Germany?
I've come to the conclusion that this occurs most severely when:
1) It is below 35 outside, the colder the greater the chance of it being replicated with "severity"
2) You use the gas pedal when backing out of your driveway, especially if the distance exceeds 100 feet.
3) The car has to then accelerate up an incline, especially with the front wheels in a turned position.
4) You tend to give a generous amount of gas upon shifting into D...
So my question is, since the so called "slipping" only occurs in these extreme conditions, although it has during the summer made a slight bump feeling on the occasion ( same start off conditions minus the heavy foot on the accelerator and low temperature) how am I supposed to go about bringing this issue to the dealer, since in the dealers warm garage and if just taking off in D from a parked position I can almost 100% guarantee it wont happen.... Since it is afterall a very mild of case of the sliptronic ( it has never slipped on driving on city streets etc).. And also would anyone know if it has something to do with production date mine was from Jan 2003 in Munich Germany?
outpost22 said:
The service tech told me on the phone that they would get a trany for me. When I stopped in later for something else, the SA said that they need to actually see the car first BEFORE BMW will send them a tranny . So now I have to waste some time so they can see it "slip". My wife said it actually slipped a few times while driving around town! The car has 600 miles on it!
. So now I have to waste some time so they can see it "slip". My wife said it actually slipped a few times while driving around town! The car has 600 miles on it!
Bmw 325i 7803 said:
5-30 seconds engagement delay? That means I dont even need to take it to the dealer, they probably will declare it a normal occurance
Are they kidding? a 30 second delay to engage drive from reverse is normal? I have had dozens of cars over the years and never had any auto tranny take 30 seconds to engage. Hell I even drove a Yugo a few times. I can't wait till I bring mine in after Christmas. I will go postal if they even suggest a 30 second delay is normal.![[mad]](/images/smilies/mad.png "Mad [mad]")
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Are they kidding? a 30 second delay to engage drive from reverse is normal? I have had dozens of cars over the years and never had any auto tranny take 30 seconds to engage. Hell I even drove a Yugo a few times. I can't wait till I bring mine in after Christmas. I will go postal if they even suggest a 30 second delay is normal.
Well, I am one of the "founders" of the Sliptronic club and have had 2 sliptronic transmissions to experiment with.
I agree that lower temps exasperate the problem, but it occurs at any temperature. It happened to me this summer in 60 degree weather. It routinely happens when backing up 25 - 35 feet. It does not have to accelerate up an incline, mine happens on flat areas with the wheels straight.
What I can also absolutely state is that the longer you let the car sit, the more guranteed and severe it will be. Due to the snow and crap on the roads, my car is now being used only once a week or less. In the past 3 weeks it sat for at least 7 days in the garage at about 50 degrees. When it was driven, it slipped for 7 seconds or so each time.
I had to give the dealer very explicit directions to reproduce it. The first 2 times, they didn't do what I said and it didn't occur. Tell them:
1. Park it forward into a parking space (outdoors).
2. Let it sit for at least 3 days.
3. Start the car.
4. Put it in reverse and backup 40 to 50 feet.
5. Shift to drive and step on the gas.
If you have experienced the problem, then if you follow the above procedure, it seems to be very reproduceable.
Personally, I think that if the problem is not fixed, the initial lack of lubrication and then the sudden surge will cause damage to the transmission internals over a period of time.
I agree that lower temps exasperate the problem, but it occurs at any temperature. It happened to me this summer in 60 degree weather. It routinely happens when backing up 25 - 35 feet. It does not have to accelerate up an incline, mine happens on flat areas with the wheels straight.
What I can also absolutely state is that the longer you let the car sit, the more guranteed and severe it will be. Due to the snow and crap on the roads, my car is now being used only once a week or less. In the past 3 weeks it sat for at least 7 days in the garage at about 50 degrees. When it was driven, it slipped for 7 seconds or so each time.
I had to give the dealer very explicit directions to reproduce it. The first 2 times, they didn't do what I said and it didn't occur. Tell them:
1. Park it forward into a parking space (outdoors).
2. Let it sit for at least 3 days.
3. Start the car.
4. Put it in reverse and backup 40 to 50 feet.
5. Shift to drive and step on the gas.
If you have experienced the problem, then if you follow the above procedure, it seems to be very reproduceable.
Personally, I think that if the problem is not fixed, the initial lack of lubrication and then the sudden surge will cause damage to the transmission internals over a period of time.
Okay....I bought my 2004 330c 3 weeks ago...felt the transmission slip three times when cold (typical scenario) and now I am here with my jaw to the floor reading the problems you all are having!!!
Any suggestions how to begin to solve this problem? software? hardware? or complete lemon?
I would appreciate any advice...
Any suggestions how to begin to solve this problem? software? hardware? or complete lemon?
I would appreciate any advice...
You've got to start with your service department. I logged a call in to the shop foreman ... and casually asked him about it. Then, you just have to make an appt. and let them look at it. Then starts the fun in terms of how they'll offer to fix it, and what you want to accept. Lemon is not an option in most states because there is a requirement that the car be brought in for service to fix the same problem 3 or 4 times without success. Good luck!
If BMW is aware of the "sliptronic" problem and they continue to sell these cars...this must be illegal or something? Has anyone checked with a lawyer here? Brand new cars with rebuilt transmissions? what the F? I know that i am preaching to the choir here...someone please tell me that their vehicle is cured?