It's Baaaack!! '04 330cic Steptronic slipping AGAIN
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M2 is the same as D... since when you shift into d the car sticks it in 2nd and i tried m2 is does the same as d, i just wanted to let everyone with the sh ttronic to know that m1 will damage your car much in the equivalence of holding the brake and giving gas and then releasing, only in this situation the brakes dont get worn out, but your drivetrain, tires, and whatever else does...
Im also pissed off that its week 4, and no tranny afterall the tranny has more than just the cold start wrong with it. When accelerating from a toll booth, or after having parked it makes a bumping noises and even hesitates, imagine having an accident because you couldn't accelerate or whatnot... Try proving that when theres no car left to the insurance company and BMW, I bet they'd be celebrating one less $4,000 job to complete on a knowingly defective car.
Im also pissed off that its week 4, and no tranny afterall the tranny has more than just the cold start wrong with it. When accelerating from a toll booth, or after having parked it makes a bumping noises and even hesitates, imagine having an accident because you couldn't accelerate or whatnot... Try proving that when theres no car left to the insurance company and BMW, I bet they'd be celebrating one less $4,000 job to complete on a knowingly defective car.
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German Tranny
I've read an awful lot of this thread and feel for those of you with this SLIPTRONIC problem. I picked up a 2004 330 Cic last Thursday... only has 230 miles on it. I have one question... Has anyone with a tranny that was manufactured in Germany had this slipping problem, or is only the French GM trannies with the problem?
Thanks,
Keith
I've read an awful lot of this thread and feel for those of you with this SLIPTRONIC problem. I picked up a 2004 330 Cic last Thursday... only has 230 miles on it. I have one question... Has anyone with a tranny that was manufactured in Germany had this slipping problem, or is only the French GM trannies with the problem?
Thanks,
Keith
Bmw 325i 7803 said:
October 04 build date??????? YOu sure![[confused]](/images/smilies/confused.png "Confused [confused]")
On the side note you can look on the sticker that was on the car when you bought it.... It says the country of manufacture.
On the side note you can look on the sticker that was on the car when you bought it.... It says the country of manufacture.
OOPS.... meant to type 03' Transmission country of manufacture on window sticker confirms Germany. I have the same slipping steptronic transmission discussed here. Are the French trannies also bad? Can we isolate where the problem is originating? What is BMW going to do?
Thanks
The trannys having the problem are GM trannys. Since one place where GM trannys are manufactured is in France, an easy way to tell whether you have one or not is to check the country of manufacture to see if it's France. I'm not sure that this means that there aren't other countries where GM trannys are manufactured.
As for what BMW is going to do, basically, you need to contact your dealer to find out.
As for what BMW is going to do, basically, you need to contact your dealer to find out.
I heard the Service Manager mention something along the lines of "blah blah we thought trannys problems (blah blah) it was isolated to only GM trannys but now i think its in the ZF trannys too" and the guy thought I had a ZF but I mentioned it was France manufactured..... So my take is he's seen it on the ZF.
Un-freaking-believable...
Just bought an 04 325i, and we're having the same problems - less than 600 miles on the car. I could not believe my eyes when I read this thread. It looks like the solution is either replace the transmission or some internal repair to it. Does anybody know what the likely diminution in the value of a car is once the transmission has been replaced?? Has anyone had any success just telling the dealer, "sorry, I'm not going to accept replacing/tearing open the transmission of a brand new car"? Especially when it looks like BMW knows about this problem but is not telling the consumer about it before purchase???? Help!
Just bought an 04 325i, and we're having the same problems - less than 600 miles on the car. I could not believe my eyes when I read this thread. It looks like the solution is either replace the transmission or some internal repair to it. Does anybody know what the likely diminution in the value of a car is once the transmission has been replaced?? Has anyone had any success just telling the dealer, "sorry, I'm not going to accept replacing/tearing open the transmission of a brand new car"? Especially when it looks like BMW knows about this problem but is not telling the consumer about it before purchase???? Help!
Sorry, but there will undoubtedly be damage to the resale value of the late (03-04) E46 3 series cars. What you could do is return it to the dealer and demand another car which doesn't have the problem, or protest outside the dealer with big signs about the mass Sliptronic transmission problem, I'm sure that will get them to listen...
Sorry about the trouble, but then again it is week 4 that I am waiting for my replacement transmission which is a $4000 job (paid by BMW) ofcourse.
Sorry about the trouble, but then again it is week 4 that I am waiting for my replacement transmission which is a $4000 job (paid by BMW) ofcourse.
Perhaps there will be a general effect on resale value for these cars as a whole. I'm not so sure that individual cars that have had there trannies replaced will have their resale value reduced. I've spoken to several people about this, and it's not a given. If, in fact, the problem's been fixed by the replacement tranny, then it may not affect the resale value at all. For some, the tranny's been replaced with what, in effect, is a new tranny at 5K, 10K, 15K miles ... this should actually increase the resale value if you think about it. When you buy a 20 year-old house, and you find out that the roof and the hot water heater were just replaced, doesn't that INCREASE the resale value?
Build date is October 03. Has there been any kind of consensus that the problem was fixed after a certain build date?
Also - question for anyone who's had the tranny swap. Did you notice a marked difference in acceleration/power when going from a dead stop? I ask b/c I got a 325i as a loaner the other day (unrelated issue) and it seemed SO much stronger than my car. At the time I just figured it was becuase my car's engine isn't broken in, but the difference in power seemed more than what is usually gained from breaking an engine in. Now i'm wondering if it is the transmission difference (loaner didn't slip that i noticed).
Also - question for anyone who's had the tranny swap. Did you notice a marked difference in acceleration/power when going from a dead stop? I ask b/c I got a 325i as a loaner the other day (unrelated issue) and it seemed SO much stronger than my car. At the time I just figured it was becuase my car's engine isn't broken in, but the difference in power seemed more than what is usually gained from breaking an engine in. Now i'm wondering if it is the transmission difference (loaner didn't slip that i noticed).
I asked about the build date because I remember reading of at least one person who's car was delivered as recently as mid/late December (probably build date on or about 11/1) and had the tranny problem. At the same time, the time that I can remember that we began to start hearing about successful fixes via either clutch assembly or tranny replaces was around end of December. So it is likely that BMW did not really have a handle on this until Nov/Dec. There are a bunch of people waiting for replacement trannys right now so we should have a better idea within a few weeks. The few replacements that have been done thus far have met with limited success.
I myself got a replacement tranny in mid-January. I am challenging the dealer who feels that the problem has been fixed. I never really had the problem to the same degree as others who could get down to 5-6k rpms and have the car not move at all. Right now it is behaving about the same as it did with the original tranny. I put into "D" when cold and the tach is at about 800rpms with a very slow forward movement (<10 mph). I can press down on the accelerator to about 1200rpms (and hear the engine rev) with no further increase in forward speed. But when I press down more and it goes above 1200rpms, I do get an increase in forward speed. I am just not enough of an expert to know whether this is normal or not. I am skeptical ... I feel that even the jump from 800-1200 rpms should increase the forward speed ... I as assuming that this is a slip. So ... I have an appt. to bring it in next Tuesday (will be left overnight to get cold) and the shop foreman will test drive it. I'll keep you all posted.
I myself got a replacement tranny in mid-January. I am challenging the dealer who feels that the problem has been fixed. I never really had the problem to the same degree as others who could get down to 5-6k rpms and have the car not move at all. Right now it is behaving about the same as it did with the original tranny. I put into "D" when cold and the tach is at about 800rpms with a very slow forward movement (<10 mph). I can press down on the accelerator to about 1200rpms (and hear the engine rev) with no further increase in forward speed. But when I press down more and it goes above 1200rpms, I do get an increase in forward speed. I am just not enough of an expert to know whether this is normal or not. I am skeptical ... I feel that even the jump from 800-1200 rpms should increase the forward speed ... I as assuming that this is a slip. So ... I have an appt. to bring it in next Tuesday (will be left overnight to get cold) and the shop foreman will test drive it. I'll keep you all posted.